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Thursday, April 24, 2008
Whale and Horse - quick reworkings...
Dear D and C
Without access to my image-editing utility of choice (PS CS), I have quickly tweaked the two images in question to see if there was any "improvement" or enhamcement possible.
Damn, just lost my response. Anyway, I like the crop and might consider that further but I don't like the change in tones. The whale is too dark. I shot this image in fog which might explain the original narrow tonal range(?) and I think I would prefer to remain true to that.
It would be interesting (to me, at least!) if you could elaborate in plain English what you like/dislike about the horse and whale pics re-croppings.
What I tried to do on the horse pic was crop in to take out the distracting elements (fence) and tidy up the cropping, to make the omission of ears etc deliberate. Then I wondered how to make the composition less static. So, I off-centered the horse's head to the left. I also wanted to make a feature of the shadow/mane elements that you liked. I also corrected the exposure (lightened) and then tried to draw out the detail in the shadow area; otherwise, it's a block of black, never good. Other than that, I couldn't think of anything else to try. For me, I much prefer the new crop - it has a kind of human-esque portrait element to it, which, I think, lifts it a bit. But hey, different strokes!
For the whale, I do still think you can have too grey an image, and this was. It has not been adjusted optimally (just used my mac software), but it seems lifted to me. Perhaps a subtle-coloured original would also be good, perhaps better than a wishy-washy mono.
Ivan--- It's hard to describe what I'm getting at. I think the crop takes away too much; the first picture had distracting imperfections and the replacement has a distracting crop. Too much is left out, unless the goal is to try being dramatic. Hard to explain, sorry. As fot the whale, b&w images with a wide contrast range just appeal to me, so I prefer the tweaked version.
Damian--- (in response to a posting earlier) How it happened: I was just putzing around the yard with the new cheapo lens, playing around and getting used to setting the exposure manually. I saw Hydrogen (the white horse) by the fence in the interesting late afternoon lighting. I guess I could have framed it a bit better, and I can't remember whether the slight underexposure was deliberate, but I liked the sort-of gloomy feel it gave to the photo, it matches well with all the dormant trees in the background and the brown muddy ground..
Perhaps also my 50,000 other pictures of this horse with normal exposure helped to make this one stand out a little in that respect.
I'm rather enjoying this burst of discussion, btw.
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Damn, just lost my response. Anyway, I like the crop and might consider that further but I don't like the change in tones. The whale is too dark. I shot this image in fog which might explain the original narrow tonal range(?) and I think I would prefer to remain true to that.
Damian
I don't like the crop... it's dramatic to the point of cliché.
I do like the higher contrast whale... it's dramatic to the point of interesting.
:)
Hi Colin
It would be interesting (to me, at least!) if you could elaborate in plain English what you like/dislike about the horse and whale pics re-croppings.
What I tried to do on the horse pic was crop in to take out the distracting elements (fence) and tidy up the cropping, to make the omission of ears etc deliberate. Then I wondered how to make the composition less static. So, I off-centered the horse's head to the left. I also wanted to make a feature of the shadow/mane elements that you liked. I also corrected the exposure (lightened) and then tried to draw out the detail in the shadow area; otherwise, it's a block of black, never good. Other than that, I couldn't think of anything else to try. For me, I much prefer the new crop - it has a kind of human-esque portrait element to it, which, I think, lifts it a bit. But hey, different strokes!
For the whale, I do still think you can have too grey an image, and this was. It has not been adjusted optimally (just used my mac software), but it seems lifted to me. Perhaps a subtle-coloured original would also be good, perhaps better than a wishy-washy mono.
Ivan
Ivan--- It's hard to describe what I'm getting at. I think the crop takes away too much; the first picture had distracting imperfections and the replacement has a distracting crop. Too much is left out, unless the goal is to try being dramatic. Hard to explain, sorry. As fot the whale, b&w images with a wide contrast range just appeal to me, so I prefer the tweaked version.
Damian--- (in response to a posting earlier) How it happened: I was just putzing around the yard with the new cheapo lens, playing around and getting used to setting the exposure manually. I saw Hydrogen (the white horse) by the fence in the interesting late afternoon lighting. I guess I could have framed it a bit better, and I can't remember whether the slight underexposure was deliberate, but I liked the sort-of gloomy feel it gave to the photo, it matches well with all the dormant trees in the background and the brown muddy ground..
Perhaps also my 50,000 other pictures of this horse with normal exposure helped to make this one stand out a little in that respect.
I'm rather enjoying this burst of discussion, btw.
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