Wednesday, October 25, 2006

"Miksang" it up a bit...

Damo

As resident Miksang Expert, is the following image Miksang? I wanted to capture the graphic simplicity of this string of lights, with the attached ribbon blowing in the wind.

Miksang rating out of 10?


Ivan

6 comments:

Critical Light said...

This is a great photo Ivan. This style just hits me like a stampede of horses racing towards a river on a hot day...

But my Miksang rating is zero.

Why?

If you had not told me that you were trying to capture something I would have scored it high, but when you shoot Miksang you don't try to do anything...

If I had shot this, I wouldn't have thought ooooh, look how that black line contrasts with the sky...

No. This image would have jumped at my face, I would have stood for a while looking at it, and then I would have shot it once the image had been composed in my mind.

As an example, have a look at the image of the washing line....

Damian

Anonymous said...

Further,

I couldn't really score a Miksang shot because that is not the point. You either have it or you don't...

D

Ivan said...

The two shots (your washing line and my string of lights) look indistinguishable, thereby giving weight to the fact that you can create a Miksang-type image (aka detail shot) and still have $350 in your back pocket.

Anonymous said...

Yes but that is not the point (you really are not getting this). Your experience of shooting was completely different to mine, and that is the whole point...

If you are interested in that aspect, then you have to engage in the study...if you just want to shoot simple images, then, yes, you can save your money...but anyone can do that...

Last point on this subject...

Before I went to the Miksang Level One Class I was thinking...Am I going to learn anything; it is a lot of money (although I only paid half since I had no job) and I already have a good eye so that will not improve.

However, after the four days, my ability to see had dramatically improved; way beyond my expectations. The course was way above my expectations.

And that is all I have to say on the matter.

Damian

Ivan said...

It seems like you genuinely believe that you have a different reaction evoked inside you, and during, the image-making process? Any image I am moved to take has evoked a reaction in me too, and whose to say what that reaction is? Sounds like the same thing really, and, if you can take Miksang images without study (as you said) then it seems that it may really be the same thing that all photographers feel when they are moved to make an image. Without emotion then the image definitely suffers, and I think that goes for all photography, Miksang or not.

That is my last word on the matter too....!!

Ivan

Anonymous said...

OK. Last word. Heavy, heavy, heavy...

I can jump between conventional and Miksang photography. I can shoot conventional anytime and everytime I do I also have a feeling; great light makes me pee my pants for example and tickles my tummy.

But to shoot Miksang I really have to enter a different frame of mind and I get a total different feeling.

The feelings that you get from the two styles are not the same; at least not to me.

And on that note, to clarify my earlier statement – Before, I was shooting Miksang style photographs; simplistic and yet powerful. But I was shooting in a conventional manner. They were not Miksang.

It really doesn`t matter. All I am trying to do is to show a different style and to explain that it differs from conventional photography. In Miksang, photography contributes 10%. The 90% is all about the experience and the connection one achieves with the image. That is why you need to study the art.

Damian